Mark Driscoll can naff off…
I’m no Mark Driscoll fan as it happens, but this comment is beyond the pale:
“Let’s just say this: right now, name for me the one young, good Bible teacher that is known across Great Britain. You don’t have one – that’s the problem. There are a bunch of cowards who aren’t telling the truth.”
Reminds of the time when Ken Ham said that all the churches in the UK were in a mess because of a non-literal reading of Genesis.
Keep your testosterone fueled mega church Driscoll….
Tags: Church Life
January 12th, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Do you want him? I am sure we could find a way to ship him over to you. We’d be happy to be free of him.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Lol. He’s yours, so you can keep him with our blessing.
I’m still hatching a plan of how I can scrobble ++Rowan Williams across the Tiber.
January 12th, 2012 at 1:59 pm
May I have a definition of “naff.” I’m a dumb Yankee and don’t know these things.
Patty
January 12th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
“I’m still hatching a plan of how I can scrobble ++Rowan Williams across the Tiber”
Please do, and please hurry up. I say this as a confirmed Anglican.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:01 pm
It basically means: Go away.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:04 pm
Hi Tim,
Could we have NT Wright please as well!
January 12th, 2012 at 2:05 pm
Having listened to Mark Driscoll eisegesis on the Song of Solomon.
Perhaps his conclusion of UK biblical teachers, is in fact a great thing!
Phew! That’s a relief.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Absolutely not Caral. He’s ours, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:19 pm
haha.. you are much more polite than I am when it comes to Driscoll. I think I would have substituted “naff” for “sod”. lol!
January 12th, 2012 at 2:36 pm
I’ve been thinking about the word ‘naff’ and realised it has quite a few uses actually doesn’t it?
To tell someone to ‘naff off’
To feel ‘naffed off’
For something to be ‘really naff’
Just thought I’d say, lol.
January 12th, 2012 at 2:52 pm
How ironic that in his attempt to “cut through the cultural noise to make Jesus interesting again”, Mark Driscoll has bought so deeply into the US cultural version of “masculinity”, as well as the “bigger is better” view of the megachurch!
January 12th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
“Naff off” is such a good English phrase……I must use it more often.
And BTW please no scrobbling of the ABC across the Tiber we have enough troubles of our own already!
January 12th, 2012 at 4:08 pm
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January 12th, 2012 at 4:44 pm
I sometimes see American preachers on the God Channel and it scares me. Mark Driscoll doesn’t know what he’s talking about otherwise he’d know better. It’s like when Republicans go on about our NHS being a disaster. Just because somethings are different outside America, it doesn’t mean they’re fundamentally wrong.
January 12th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Gillian, I think the analogy with the Republicans and the NHS is a good one. I imagine that Driscoll has been talking to some disgruntled Brit evangelicals with their own axes to grind and agendas to pursue.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:03 pm
I haven’t read the article, and never heard of the man, but isn’t the statement in the quote *true*?
He says: “name for me the one young, good Bible teacher that is known across Great Britain”… well, I don’t know of one. Do you?
Doubtless they exist, but not with the sort of reputation of David Watson or John Stott.
January 12th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
Yes, but what sort of reputations did David Watson and John Stott have in their thirties? I can’t think of any young American Bible teachers with that sort of reputation either.
January 13th, 2012 at 2:49 pm
David Watson certainly had a great reputation round York by the time he was 35 (1968). My wife and I attended St Cuthbert’s about once a month for teaching. The other weeks we went to our local church.
I can’t think of any ‘young’ Bible teachers of that calibre. Pray that God may raise up one or more.
January 13th, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Terry is right. Indeed David Watson died young, you know? And I think John Stott made quite an impact early on?
I’ve now read the article, and I don’t understand the obvious anger here. It seems entirely unexceptionable. “Gentle Jesus meek and mild” is indeed heard as “Timid Jesus weak and feeble” pretty generally. Look in the average Christian church (I don’t mean mainstream ‘churches’ with a handful of nominal believers, but those where the gospel is preached and believed) — there’s a distinct shortage of adult professional male believers. Indeed I believe adult professional female believers have been known to complain about it!
Driscoll’s diagnosis — that the church isn’t doing the right thing, and needs to think about just what would challenge the average beer-drinking fornicating man — must be right. Because what else are most unbelievers these days? And God loves even the lager lout, and seeks to bring him to salvation. Why don’t we try?
But in all such disputes, I suggest we pray and ask God whether this is right. It may not be right for us; but it must be right for some to grasp this nettle.