Christian Persecution in the UK

Courtesy of Jonathan Robinson over at Xenos Theology:

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15 Responses to “Christian Persecution in the UK”

  1. Jill Says:

    This is nonsense, and it’s not even funny. I have worked in the secular world all my life, in the City of London, and nobody has ever treated me badly because of my faith. It is true I was looked at askance a couple of times when people found out I actually went to church, but once they discovered that I could party like the rest of them people just accepted me.

    But my job didn’t entail having to do anything which went against my conscience once new laws had been brought in. Try showing this to the people who have been sacked for just that, like the teacher who refused to teach children that homosexuality was normal, or the health worker who showed her colleagues some anti-abortion literature.

    I am surprised at you for posting this, webmaster, and very disappointed.

  2. Webmaster Says:

    Hi Jill, I still believe that apathy and indifference is the vast majority response to our faith here in the UK.

  3. Cabal Says:

    The point is that the crisis of conscience cases are few and far between yet have been blown out of all proportion into some notion of an organised persecution (complex).

  4. Cabal Says:

    Addendum: And for most of the crisis of conscience cases, they’re akin to a vegan complaining about their job in an abbatoir anyway….

  5. Fundie Says:

    @Jill,

    You (persecuted christians) want to be treated differently due to your views or because you attended church, yet your ‘partying like the rest of them’ shows your work colleagues that your lifestyle is no different to theirs.
    So therefore you cannot take the moral high ground, or a crisis of conscience, by wanting to impose on others your own beliefs.

  6. Sophie Says:

    @ Cabal: “As for most of the crisis of conscience cases, they’re akin to a vegan complaining about their job in an abbatoir anyway…”

    Neatly put. And in a couple of the recent cases (the home tutor and the housing officer) it’s clear that, far from suffering persecution, these guys were instigators, causing distress to vulnerable people they met through their work. The boot very much on the other foot.

  7. Cabal Says:

    @Sophie:

    “Neatly put.”

    I should have spelt it abattoir, not abbatoir – the latter presumably where Swedish pop bands are slaughtered.

  8. Simian Says:

    Jill,
    I too work in the City and I think there is enough ‘truth’ in this cartoon for it to be considered a very mild poke at people who shout ‘Persecution’ at the slightest opportunity. I have come across people like that. They really do exist. Generally they are incredibly disappointed when everyone just ignores them, because that’s not in their script. Some people expect, even want, to be persecuted, in order to validate their faith.

    The rest of us should not be so over sensitive. This is not a dig at those millions of sincere Christians who modestly assert their faith. It is surely a dig at those few people who genuinely but misguidedly go out to provoke an adverse reaction as an end in itself.

  9. Goy Says:

    When muslims have crisis of conscience cases they are appeased.

    Scores of the Britain’s 10,000 Muslim prisoners – who account for one in eight of all inmates – are refusing to take part in Offending Behaviour Programmes (OBPs ), claiming it is ‘forbidden’ or ‘Haraam’.

  10. Simian Says:

    That’s a really interesting statistic you’ve unearthed there Goy. 12% of the prison population in the UK is Muslim, against an overall Muslim population in the UK of less than 5%.
    I would be the first to state that it would be unjust to leap to unsubstantiated conclusions but I would be fascinated if anyone can shed some factual light on this disparity. It might be something as mundane as the fact that Muslims might be over-represented in deprived areas. Any thoughts? It might be the reverse of Humanists being hugely unrepresented in the prson population.

  11. Simian Says:

    Ooops – should read “under-represented” in the last sentence.

  12. Simian Says:

    Thanks for the link to Xenos Theology Webmaster. I could not resist scrolling down to the video clip where a preacher takes as his text “Him that pisseth against the wall”. I kid you not! Weird!

  13. Goy Says:

    @Simian,

    This interview may interest you.

    Among Criminal Muslims by Nicolai Sennels.

    Nicolai Sennels a Danish psychologist who worked for several years with young criminal Muslims in a Copenhagen prison. He is the author of Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist’s Experience from the Copenhagen Municipality.

  14. Simian Says:

    Also very interesting Goy. Thank you. I was particular taken by the following extract:

    An important aspect of this difference concerning locus of control is that people who see their own lives mainly guided by outer factors – a fearsome God, a powerful father, influential imams, ancient but strong cultural traditions – very easily develop a victim mentality. It is thus not without reason that conspiracies and blaming the non-Muslims are so central in Muslim leaders’ rhetoric and politics. This victim mentality also dominates the mentality of Muslim immigrants, who often have a long row of demands for economic support and Islamization of our societies to satisfy their personal needs.

    Food for thought…

  15. Goy Says:

    @Simian,

    Pat Condell has an interesting take on how the victim mentality is manipulated and politically weaponized in free societies.

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