Comments on: Islamic Forum Europe (IFE) has infiltrated The Labour Party

By: M. Ibn Tahhara

M. Ibn Tahhara — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:00:45 +0000

Have you considered a simple line-by-line comparison with HT’s constitution and IFE’s published materials? You’ll find, I think, that the ends are very much the same — it’s just that the means are different.

Your final paragraph was wonderful! Critics of the IFE purely have an axe to grind. I assume, mutatis mutandis, that since you’re a critic of the critics, we can therefore assume that you have an axe to grind, too. Or could it be possible that the critics have a point? I must admit a bias — having been forcibly and firmly removed from an IFE meeting, I’m a little suspect of their methods.

By: The Friendly Lefty

The Friendly Lefty — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:53:24 +0000

M. Ibn Tahhara, the problem with your comment is that it is false and misleading. HT and IFE are miles apart and to pretend otherwise is to encourage those who treat all Muslims and even all Islamists as one monolithic bloc. HT do not believe Muslims in this country should vote. IFE are for peaceful democratic engagement. You might not like what they say when they peacefully and democratically engage but it is their right to do so.

And as for all the Muslims prepared to denounce the IFE, I think you’ll find most of them have an axe to grind with the Council for one petty reason or another.

By: M. Ibn Tahhara

M. Ibn Tahhara — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:15:04 +0000

Gilligan was actually fairly close to the mark. The issue is not so much the entryism, as the agenda of the IFE (not much different from Hizb ut Tahrir). Have a look at what some of the ex-Islamist folks (Ed Hussain, for one) are commenting on the story. The IFE are nasty, pernicious, racist (yes, Muslims can be racist too!) bunch of thugs (personal experience) — what encouraged me most about the Dispatches programme was the number of *Muslims* who were prepared to stand up against this kind of political thuggery.

By: Webmaster

Webmaster — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:14:10 +0000

There is another post on the Islamic Forum that you posted on yesterday Sophie:-

http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2010/03/01/exclusive-the-ife-islamic-forum-europe-have-become-influential-in-east-london/

By: Webmaster

Webmaster — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:12:15 +0000

Hi Sophie, no posts deleted or censored recently (except for spam).

By: Sophie, Surrey

Sophie, Surrey — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:09:01 +0000

Several posts have disappeared, which makes Nadira’s last post nonsensical. I do not recall anything wildly controversial in the missing posts so perhaps there’s a technical hitch.

There’s a wide gap between the British Muslims I know and radical Islamism. Many British Muslims like living in the UK specifically because, although they have religious freedom, the UK is *not* a theocracy.

British Muslims, far from rallying under the banner of the idiotic Islam4UK, are concerned by fundamentalism creeping into their communities. The IFE’s overt purpose has been subverted. Given its true aims it is no friend to the Labour Party or democracy at all.

By: Nadira

Nadira — Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:25:06 +0000

I am so happy to see the above comments, it clearly shows the truthfulness of the situation really really happy, it portrays true opinions of honest people. Thank you

By: Goy

Goy — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:42:23 +0000

” … one Muslim’s jihad and sharia are not another Muslim’s jihad and sharia: theological interpretation has been devolved and judicial authority protestantised.”

When is jihad not jihad when it is “devolved and judicial authority protestantised” what does that mean???

This is jihad by stealth, jihad is a multidimensional strategy but still jihad.