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	<title>Comments on: We wish to show our solidarity with Seismic Shock who has been the victim of intimidation for shining a spotlight on the anti-Zionist theology of Reverend Stephen Sizer.</title>
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	<description>I am not out of my mind, most excellent Festus, but I utter words of sober truth.</description>
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		<title>By: Police pay Seismic Shock blogger a visit over &#8216;harassment&#8217; &#124; Online Journalism Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Police pay Seismic Shock blogger a visit over &#8216;harassment&#8217; &#124; Online Journalism Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: webmaster</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely classic. I have just posted it on my new Seismic Shock post:-

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2010/01/28/seismic-shock-rev-stephen-sizer-blogging-christians-and-censorship/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Seismic Shock, Rev. Stephen Sizer, Blogging, Christians and Censorship.&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely classic. I have just posted it on my new Seismic Shock post:-</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2010/01/28/seismic-shock-rev-stephen-sizer-blogging-christians-and-censorship/"  rel="nofollow">Seismic Shock, Rev. Stephen Sizer, Blogging, Christians and Censorship.</a></p>
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		<title>By: modernity</title>
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		<dc:creator>modernity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seismic Shock the Video is out.

http://modernityblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/seismic-shock-the-video/

Please do embed it and pass it along to others,

Cheers :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seismic Shock the Video is out.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://modernityblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/seismic-shock-the-video/"  rel="nofollow">http://modernityblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/seismic-shock-the-video/</a></p>
<p>Please do embed it and pass it along to others,</p>
<p>Cheers <img src='http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wardman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Wardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more.  My key points:

&quot; I don’t think that a published author and controversialist will cover himself in glory by complaining to the police about hostile articles by somebody else. I hope that authors would pay more attention to the principle of freedom of expression. If material is defamatory, then the action should be for defamation. If it is a vigorous argument, then argue back. Note: I have not of course – since it has been deleted – seen all the original content of the Seismic blog.

I think we have a problem with a nebulous definition of harassment, which is being assessed too heavily on the basis of the statements of the victim; some reform is needed.

And, I’m reluctant to say it, but I think that there are so many petty interferences and use of laws to intimidate individuals by different varieties of policemen – the most topical example is photographers – that I think we need to make it almost a principle not to give in to “a quiet word from a Constable”; we need to make our police justify their actions at every point.

I think that it is important to keep the principles of law at stake here separate from the arguments about Middle East politics and religion.&quot;

The link is here: 
http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2010/01/26/rev-stephen-sizer-vicar-of-virginia-water-reports-critical-blogger-to-police-for-harassment/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more.  My key points:</p>
<p>&#8221; I don’t think that a published author and controversialist will cover himself in glory by complaining to the police about hostile articles by somebody else. I hope that authors would pay more attention to the principle of freedom of expression. If material is defamatory, then the action should be for defamation. If it is a vigorous argument, then argue back. Note: I have not of course – since it has been deleted – seen all the original content of the Seismic blog.</p>
<p>I think we have a problem with a nebulous definition of harassment, which is being assessed too heavily on the basis of the statements of the victim; some reform is needed.</p>
<p>And, I’m reluctant to say it, but I think that there are so many petty interferences and use of laws to intimidate individuals by different varieties of policemen – the most topical example is photographers – that I think we need to make it almost a principle not to give in to “a quiet word from a Constable”; we need to make our police justify their actions at every point.</p>
<p>I think that it is important to keep the principles of law at stake here separate from the arguments about Middle East politics and religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>The link is here:<br />
<a target="_blank" href="http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2010/01/26/rev-stephen-sizer-vicar-of-virginia-water-reports-critical-blogger-to-police-for-harassment/"  rel="nofollow">http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/2010/01/26/rev-stephen-sizer-vicar-of-virginia-water-reports-critical-blogger-to-police-for-harassment/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Calvin L. Smith: &#34;We are all Seismic now&#34; &#171; Living Journey</title>
		<link>http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2010/01/24/show-solidarity-seismic-shock-victim-intimidation-shining-spotlight-antizionist-theology-reverend-stephen-sizer/comment-page-1/#comment-12089</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin L. Smith: &#34;We are all Seismic now&#34; &#171; Living Journey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Seismic Shocks original post called “Anglican Vicar Uses Police To Intimidate Blogger”. Oh, and here the growing list of just how many blogs have covered this [just scroll down to the bottom of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: webmaster</title>
		<link>http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2010/01/24/show-solidarity-seismic-shock-victim-intimidation-shining-spotlight-antizionist-theology-reverend-stephen-sizer/comment-page-1/#comment-12085</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 23:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Calvin. Couldn&#039;t resist adding one more link above, to your excellent article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Calvin. Couldn&#8217;t resist adding one more link above, to your excellent article.</p>
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		<title>By: www.calvinlsmith.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>www.calvinlsmith.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent record-keeping job, Stuart. Has really helped a lot us of. Thanks.

Calvin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent record-keeping job, Stuart. Has really helped a lot us of. Thanks.</p>
<p>Calvin</p>
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		<title>By: Webmaster</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alan.</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Kellogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just approved your pingback on &lt;a href=&quot;http://opines.mythusmage.org/?p=87&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Who Won in &#039;45&lt;/a&gt;, and I hope others will write about Seismic Shock&#039;s troubles and the nefarious Mr. Sizer.

I believe in evolution, global warming, bigfoot, and free speech. I am opposed to people using their position of authority to stifle debate. I think it is better to explain yourself than to shut others up. For when you try to shut others up, you are admitting you haven&#039;t a let to stand on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just approved your pingback on <a target="_blank" href="http://opines.mythusmage.org/?p=87"  rel="nofollow">Who Won in &#8217;45</a>, and I hope others will write about Seismic Shock&#8217;s troubles and the nefarious Mr. Sizer.</p>
<p>I believe in evolution, global warming, bigfoot, and free speech. I am opposed to people using their position of authority to stifle debate. I think it is better to explain yourself than to shut others up. For when you try to shut others up, you are admitting you haven&#8217;t a let to stand on.</p>
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		<title>By: webmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>webmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Armaros, already done.</description>
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		<title>By: armaros</title>
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		<dc:creator>armaros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add Atlas Shrugs and Little Green Footballs to the list please 

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/01/seismic-shock-various-police-authorities-monitor-blogger.html

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35644_Anglican_Vicar_Uses_Police_To_Intimidate_Blogger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add Atlas Shrugs and Little Green Footballs to the list please </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/01/seismic-shock-various-police-authorities-monitor-blogger.html"  rel="nofollow">http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/01/seismic-shock-various-police-authorities-monitor-blogger.html</a></p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35644_Anglican_Vicar_Uses_Police_To_Intimidate_Blogger"  rel="nofollow">http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/35644_Anglican_Vicar_Uses_Police_To_Intimidate_Blogger</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger Pearse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Pearse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am little concerned by some of this, and I don&#039;t propose to be bracketed with people who simply are pro-Israel in their politics.  The issue is one of free-speech.  

I don&#039;t think the issue is whether someone is anti-Jewish.  That&#039;s irrelevant.  Let people who dislike Jews or hate Jews say their piece, and if they have good arguments, let&#039;s hear them.

Let us remember that people opposed to &quot;anti-semites&quot; have an evil track record on this one.  All this &quot;holocaust denier&quot; (pronounced with the same intonation as &quot;dirty jew&quot;) stuff is just as much opposed to free speech, and has been used ruthlessly to suppress criticism of Jews and of Israel, even when these have been up to no good.  There is even evidence of &quot;Nazi&#039;s&quot; being manufactured by Jewish groups in Canada, in order to get censorship laws passed.  Enough of this.

The issue, I repeat, is free speech.  I don&#039;t care if someone wears jackboots and hates Jews when they post (rather uncomfortable, surely) or wears a lounge-suit and hates &quot;anti-semites&quot;.  Both must live with themselves, and are no concern of ours.  No, live and let live.  

Some will talk about &quot;incitement&quot;.  But &quot;incitement to hate&quot; is merely a weasel-word for suppression of free speech.  We cannot police emotions, and indeed those who call for it merely intend to hamper their enemies.  Their own hate is generally open and explicit.

No, I think that the law should make clear that all speech is legitimate that is not an direct incitement to specific violence against specific people.  Anything else looks rather like politically-motivated censorship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am little concerned by some of this, and I don&#8217;t propose to be bracketed with people who simply are pro-Israel in their politics.  The issue is one of free-speech.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the issue is whether someone is anti-Jewish.  That&#8217;s irrelevant.  Let people who dislike Jews or hate Jews say their piece, and if they have good arguments, let&#8217;s hear them.</p>
<p>Let us remember that people opposed to &#8220;anti-semites&#8221; have an evil track record on this one.  All this &#8220;holocaust denier&#8221; (pronounced with the same intonation as &#8220;dirty jew&#8221;) stuff is just as much opposed to free speech, and has been used ruthlessly to suppress criticism of Jews and of Israel, even when these have been up to no good.  There is even evidence of &#8220;Nazi&#8217;s&#8221; being manufactured by Jewish groups in Canada, in order to get censorship laws passed.  Enough of this.</p>
<p>The issue, I repeat, is free speech.  I don&#8217;t care if someone wears jackboots and hates Jews when they post (rather uncomfortable, surely) or wears a lounge-suit and hates &#8220;anti-semites&#8221;.  Both must live with themselves, and are no concern of ours.  No, live and let live.  </p>
<p>Some will talk about &#8220;incitement&#8221;.  But &#8220;incitement to hate&#8221; is merely a weasel-word for suppression of free speech.  We cannot police emotions, and indeed those who call for it merely intend to hamper their enemies.  Their own hate is generally open and explicit.</p>
<p>No, I think that the law should make clear that all speech is legitimate that is not an direct incitement to specific violence against specific people.  Anything else looks rather like politically-motivated censorship.</p>
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		<title>By: Webmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:lol:</description>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You read Sizer so we don&#039;t have to!</description>
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		<title>By: Ohtheirony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohtheirony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 12:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From p. 8 of Rev Sizer’s 2007 book “Zion’s Christian Soldiers”:

“The battle over intellectual freedom is waged in universities on both sides of the Atlantic. Organisations such as Campus Watch and the Union of Jewish Students monitor staff and students and put pressure on the authorities to censure them.” 

You couldn’t make it up!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From p. 8 of Rev Sizer’s 2007 book “Zion’s Christian Soldiers”:</p>
<p>“The battle over intellectual freedom is waged in universities on both sides of the Atlantic. Organisations such as Campus Watch and the Union of Jewish Students monitor staff and students and put pressure on the authorities to censure them.” </p>
<p>You couldn’t make it up!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I have some more publicity, Webby?

http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/stephen-sizer-hebrews-8-13/

I discuss Sizer&#039;s latest blog missive (comments disallowed, of course) in which he compares contemporary Israeli Jews to the Roman Empire in occupation of the region.

I suppose this is an improvement on salivating over Paschal pogroms, but just as his reference to the Children of Hagar is problematic, so is this when one considers it was not the *Christians* being oppressed and then rebelling against Rome.

If you&#039;re going to cite 2,000 year old religious texts as verbatim fact, use everything!

In Sizer&#039;s views on calumnious blogging, which I linked to above, he said:

==&gt; Responding to these calumnious blogs, even for defense of the individual or for clarification, only encourages the offender and prolongs the life of the calumny.

Whoopsie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I have some more publicity, Webby?</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/stephen-sizer-hebrews-8-13/"  rel="nofollow">http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2010/01/24/stephen-sizer-hebrews-8-13/</a></p>
<p>I discuss Sizer&#8217;s latest blog missive (comments disallowed, of course) in which he compares contemporary Israeli Jews to the Roman Empire in occupation of the region.</p>
<p>I suppose this is an improvement on salivating over Paschal pogroms, but just as his reference to the Children of Hagar is problematic, so is this when one considers it was not the *Christians* being oppressed and then rebelling against Rome.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to cite 2,000 year old religious texts as verbatim fact, use everything!</p>
<p>In Sizer&#8217;s views on calumnious blogging, which I linked to above, he said:</p>
<p>==&gt; Responding to these calumnious blogs, even for defense of the individual or for clarification, only encourages the offender and prolongs the life of the calumny.</p>
<p>Whoopsie.</p>
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		<title>By: More links &#171; Seismic Shock</title>
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		<dc:creator>More links &#171; Seismic Shock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: webmaster</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Alec!</description>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any need to equivocate with calling it anti-Zionist.  In the political sense, such people ain&#039;t necessarily antisemites but do make a habit of stumbling into or associating with antisemitic politics (and might as well be anti-Lausanne Treaty).

I do wonder if Sizer is, in fact, a Zionist, but not for the group which had the temerity to reject his God.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cc-vw.org/articles/czema.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; he appears to compare Christian Zionists to eczema, and definitely compares them to supporters of the Children of Hagar (Galatians 4:21/6).

The problem with this is that she is, of course, held to be the progenitor of Ishmaelites/Arabs.  Arab Christians could be brought back into the tent for their faith, but where does this leave Arab Muslims when he speaks at Khomenist Holocaust Denial events?

It&#039;s bad enough being a Christian polemical tribalist, but this is hypocrisy.  Not that, I think, it concerns him... recently he was &lt;a href=&quot;http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/persona-non-grata-in-iran/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;refused&lt;/a&gt; a visa to Iran &#039;cos, when attending an erm &#039;conference&#039;, Bibles had been found in his luggage.

Instead of doing what any good self-proclaimed Christian evangelical and proponent of replacement theology would do – admitting he was concerned for the pastoral care of his Iranian brethren and sistren - he was at pains to assure Iranian authorities that his “primary objective is not to plant a church” but to discuss the iniquities of “Christian Zionism”.

Ugh.

As Seismic showed, Anthony McRoy, for his part, has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mahdaviat-conference.com/vdcgry9w4ak9y.j5a.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;compared&lt;/a&gt; Hezbollah&#039;s attacks on and murder of Jews in Israel to Yehoshuan sacrifice.  Pogroms at Easter, anyone?

Double ugh.

Sizer also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stephensizer.com/2009/03/calumny-and-the-blogosphere/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;believes&lt;/a&gt; that inaccurate blogging is akin to breaking the Eighth Commandment (in his Bible), putting the souls of the blogger and others at risk.

John 11:35!

I think Sizer and McRoy have shot themselves in the foot with this.  I wonder what the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cofeguildford.org.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bish of Guild&lt;/a&gt; would have to say about this.

PS Thank you for the ping-back to A Rabbit&#039;s Eye View.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any need to equivocate with calling it anti-Zionist.  In the political sense, such people ain&#8217;t necessarily antisemites but do make a habit of stumbling into or associating with antisemitic politics (and might as well be anti-Lausanne Treaty).</p>
<p>I do wonder if Sizer is, in fact, a Zionist, but not for the group which had the temerity to reject his God.  <a target="_blank" href="http://www.cc-vw.org/articles/czema.htm"  rel="nofollow">Here</a> he appears to compare Christian Zionists to eczema, and definitely compares them to supporters of the Children of Hagar (Galatians 4:21/6).</p>
<p>The problem with this is that she is, of course, held to be the progenitor of Ishmaelites/Arabs.  Arab Christians could be brought back into the tent for their faith, but where does this leave Arab Muslims when he speaks at Khomenist Holocaust Denial events?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad enough being a Christian polemical tribalist, but this is hypocrisy.  Not that, I think, it concerns him&#8230; recently he was <a target="_blank" href="http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/persona-non-grata-in-iran/"  rel="nofollow">refused</a> a visa to Iran &#8216;cos, when attending an erm &#8216;conference&#8217;, Bibles had been found in his luggage.</p>
<p>Instead of doing what any good self-proclaimed Christian evangelical and proponent of replacement theology would do – admitting he was concerned for the pastoral care of his Iranian brethren and sistren &#8211; he was at pains to assure Iranian authorities that his “primary objective is not to plant a church” but to discuss the iniquities of “Christian Zionism”.</p>
<p>Ugh.</p>
<p>As Seismic showed, Anthony McRoy, for his part, has <a target="_blank" href="http://www.mahdaviat-conference.com/vdcgry9w4ak9y.j5a.html"  rel="nofollow">compared</a> Hezbollah&#8217;s attacks on and murder of Jews in Israel to Yehoshuan sacrifice.  Pogroms at Easter, anyone?</p>
<p>Double ugh.</p>
<p>Sizer also <a target="_blank" href="http://www.stephensizer.com/2009/03/calumny-and-the-blogosphere/"  rel="nofollow">believes</a> that inaccurate blogging is akin to breaking the Eighth Commandment (in his Bible), putting the souls of the blogger and others at risk.</p>
<p>John 11:35!</p>
<p>I think Sizer and McRoy have shot themselves in the foot with this.  I wonder what the <a href="http://www.cofeguildford.org.uk/"  rel="nofollow">Bish of Guild</a> would have to say about this.</p>
<p>PS Thank you for the ping-back to A Rabbit&#8217;s Eye View.</p>
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