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	<title>Comments on: Stephen Fry and Christopher Hitchens won a public debate in London in which they argued against the motion “The Catholic Church is a force for good in the world&#8221;</title>
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	<description>I am not out of my mind, most excellent Festus, but I utter words of sober truth.</description>
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		<title>By: Aanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Sophie for pointing me in the direction of our lovely Patricia (if she exists!). Honestly, Sophie (and all sincere people out there) the truth and authenticity of what you believe is in what that belief system has and is doing to your World view.

Do the teachings of the Catholic Church make you fall in love, first with the Creator ... and therefore, with God&#039;s creation. They do, for me.

I have stood up to antagonistic and anti-Christian views by listening to, learning about and from the Church, unrepentantly. That is our only defence (1 P3:13-15).

Again, these debates do not faze me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Sophie for pointing me in the direction of our lovely Patricia (if she exists!). Honestly, Sophie (and all sincere people out there) the truth and authenticity of what you believe is in what that belief system has and is doing to your World view.</p>
<p>Do the teachings of the Catholic Church make you fall in love, first with the Creator &#8230; and therefore, with God&#8217;s creation. They do, for me.</p>
<p>I have stood up to antagonistic and anti-Christian views by listening to, learning about and from the Church, unrepentantly. That is our only defence (1 P3:13-15).</p>
<p>Again, these debates do not faze me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophie, Surrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophie, Surrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone looked into Catholic Truth itself, run by the scary Patricia McKeever?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1945860.ece

And this appears to be the tip of the iceberg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone looked into Catholic Truth itself, run by the scary Patricia McKeever?</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1945860.ece"  rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1945860.ece</a></p>
<p>And this appears to be the tip of the iceberg.</p>
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		<title>By: Aanie</title>
		<link>http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2009/11/11/stephen-fry-christopher-hitchens-won-public-debate-london-argued-motion-catholic-church-force-good-world/comment-page-1/#comment-13753</link>
		<dc:creator>Aanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Church knows where she works best and where she means the most to the world - in matters of saving souls, not at this type of debates where the opposing parties have best seller and best actor titles!

The Church does not, will never, has really never won any debate in the world ... and should not think of doing so!! Why should she?? Her job is to win souls. I am supprised that she entered into such a debate.

But I am not fazed by this result and no christian is. As soon as I stumbled into the debate  i actually anticipated and expected it, especially because of the society in which the debate took place!

We should try this debate in Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Church knows where she works best and where she means the most to the world &#8211; in matters of saving souls, not at this type of debates where the opposing parties have best seller and best actor titles!</p>
<p>The Church does not, will never, has really never won any debate in the world &#8230; and should not think of doing so!! Why should she?? Her job is to win souls. I am supprised that she entered into such a debate.</p>
<p>But I am not fazed by this result and no christian is. As soon as I stumbled into the debate  i actually anticipated and expected it, especially because of the society in which the debate took place!</p>
<p>We should try this debate in Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Warkentin</title>
		<link>http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2009/11/11/stephen-fry-christopher-hitchens-won-public-debate-london-argued-motion-catholic-church-force-good-world/comment-page-1/#comment-8918</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin Warkentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came across the debate by accident, or perhaps it was the Holy Spirit  who led me there. It was worth much more than the football game I had been watching (my team was losing!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across the debate by accident, or perhaps it was the Holy Spirit  who led me there. It was worth much more than the football game I had been watching (my team was losing!).</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://blog.echurchwebsites.org.uk/2009/11/11/stephen-fry-christopher-hitchens-won-public-debate-london-argued-motion-catholic-church-force-good-world/comment-page-1/#comment-8886</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you and God bless you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you and God bless you!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisH</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question: The spiel by Charles Spurgeon - please tell me how it is relevant if you don&#039;t see the bible as the inerrant (or even errant) word of any deity?

His arguments are based on assumptions that non-Christians will (by deign of being non-Christians) not accept. So... IMO, obviously... the essay is not relevant in this context.

Slightly different question to the &#039;RCC as a force for good&#039; issue which questions it as an institution rather then on the accuracy/truth of it&#039;s founding text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question: The spiel by Charles Spurgeon &#8211; please tell me how it is relevant if you don&#8217;t see the bible as the inerrant (or even errant) word of any deity?</p>
<p>His arguments are based on assumptions that non-Christians will (by deign of being non-Christians) not accept. So&#8230; IMO, obviously&#8230; the essay is not relevant in this context.</p>
<p>Slightly different question to the &#8216;RCC as a force for good&#8217; issue which questions it as an institution rather then on the accuracy/truth of it&#8217;s founding text.</p>
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